#ok so I guess agatha also thought teen was her son. which makes sense from what we know. her reaction to seeing him hurt......
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the-eclectic-wonderer · 2 months ago
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Requirements to be in the coven of Agatha Harkness, most infamous witch in the world:
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the-most-faithful · 2 months ago
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Agatha All Along 1x05
Ok let's talk about episode 5 of Agatha All Along first thing, WHY ARE THE EPISODES SO FUCKING SHORT??? I physically need at least an hour long episodes.
I was surprised that Agatha's trial has already happened, I almost assumed it would be the last one but it actually feels more realistic this way and it has created a rift in the coven. I'm not really clear on what the purpose of the trial is though. I mean the other two involved the whole coven who would have been saved by collaborating, while this one seems to only serve to abandon Agatha as her mother wants. Was it perhaps a trial to show that the coven needs to learn to trust and not abandon Agatha? It seems a bit strange to me. If they had actually left her would they have failed the trial? Was that the point?
The fact that Rio defends her from her mother after she suggests slitting Agatha's throat is fantastic. In addition to perfectly representing the trope: "No one can hurt you but me" has a deeper implication. By now it is almost confirmed who Rio really is, the fact that she wants to kill Agatha with that peace of mind has no evil in itself, she wants to "collect" her, if you know what I mean. Leaving her to her mother instead would mean condemning her, which Rio does not want to do.
Alice, my little angel, we will miss you. She was the only one who actively tried to save Agatha, even if to be fair even Teen was opposed to abandoning her. Here Agatha was really out of control, she did NOT hurt Alice on purpose but everyone, given her reputation, believes she is guilty. Nothing that really surprises me, but what hurt me was seeing Teen who turned against her so quickly. Sure it is credible, he was becoming fond of Alice who defended him and helped him, but damn after the connection he made with Agatha in the last episode this really hurt. Great point also showing how she has distanced herself a bit from Teen emotionally, it's small details, but it's perfectly in her way of protecting herself emotionally.
When Teen then mentioned Nicholas' name I literally screamed, not to mention the voice of the child begging the mother to stop. Agatha's reaction was incredible, she stopped instantly and turned around as if she expected to see her child. When she realized what she had done she made a move to approach Alice and here I'm sure she wanted to check if she could help her, but Teen pushed her away angrily and this shook her (and I was about to cry)
Rio in the last part seems to have disappeared, I think she was taking care of Alice's body.
And BOOOM the bomb was dropped with "you look like your mother" We all knew who Teen really was, yes I hoped until the very end that it was Nicholas.
But to be honest I rewatched the previous episodes pretending not to know the comics and theories/spoilers and I have to say that I'm pretty sure that the writers structured the series with the intent of making viewers believe that Teen was Nick and in their mind this was supposed to be the Plot Twist. It all makes sense, it's us fans who "ruined" the surprise.
So yes Teen is Billy, now we just have to figure out how, will they keep the story from the comics or change it? But above all HOW DID AGATHA UNDERSTAND THIS?? In the previous episode she said "you don't need to know a person's name to know who he is" I thought it was a way to reassure Teen and maybe unconsciously to show the hope that he was her son but now I doubt this. Did she guess it was Billy? How? And how can I wait another week? I repeat these episodes are too short.
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missnight0wl · 1 month ago
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I'm watching Agatha All Along, and I'm loving it (except for Alice's death), but one thing occurred to me yesterday that I have to share. And that is...
What exactly is the point of Teen's sigil?
The general understanding of it is that it's supposed to protect Teen's identity - which makes sense since it hides his name and whatnot. Except... it really doesn't make sense. After episode 5, it's pretty clear that Teen is Wiccan, right? Therefore, we assume he's also Billy Kaplan, and therefore Billy Maximoff. But here's the thing. No matter if he knows about his connection to Billy Maximoff/Wanda, he probably still introduces himself as "Billy Kaplan". I mean, I heard that Jeff Kaplan and Rebbecca Kaplan were cast for the show, so it'd be weird if their son insisted he's Billy MAXIMOFF. So, if he told Agatha: "I'm Billy Kaplan"... she'd probably just shrug it off. Yes, it would spoil everything for us, but for Agatha "Billy Kaplan" has no meaning. I think it's very unlikely she'd be like: "Oh, this boy's name is Billy AND he's interested in witches? He HAS TO be Wanda's son!". Perhaps the thought of Billy M. would cross her mind, but I doubt she'd get fixated on it. William is a pretty common name, after all.
My point is that if the sigil is indeed meant to protect Teen by hiding his identity, the way it works is very weird since it draws more attention than the name itself would. You know what I mean? Unless... that's exactly the point.
What if the real reason the sigil was put on Teen was to intrigue Agatha and make sure she goes to the Witches' Road? What if it's the main thing the caster cared about, for whatever reason? I mean, if that's the case, it totally worked. Agatha wanted to leave Teen before she saw the sigil. Yes, the mention of the Road got her interested a bit, but only after the sigil appeared, she was like:
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And then: "Ok, I'm driving".
With that in mind, I think we have three main suspects who might've put the sigil.
Teen. We know he really wanted to go to the Road, so it makes sense he'd do everything to ensure that Agatha agrees to that. And it was said that the sigil is amateurish and whatnot. I'm aware it's not the first time Teen is suggested as the caster, but from what I've seen, people always talk about the protection aspect. But why Billy Kaplan would feel the need to hide that he's Billy Kaplan?
Rio. Rio knows Agatha very well, and she immediately recognised she thinks Teen might be Nicholas. Well, I assume she'd also know ahead of time it might happen, so she might've used this knowledge to get Agatha hooked. Why Rio would want Agatha on the Road so badly? I don't know. But I think it's possible she worked with Teen to free Agatha from Wanda's spell, too. For example, notice that she steps in when Agatha kicks Teen during the interrogation.  I admit it doesn't have to confirm they're in cahoots, maybe Rio simply decided on her own to make sure the freeing goes well, but still.
Wanda. I know this one is also quite often discussed in the context of protecting Billy Maximoff, but I guess she might've had a different goal, and that's again about drawing attention. Why would Wanda want to draw the attention of witches (and Agatha in particular) to her boy? Well, perhaps it's about the guidance. Maybe she was like: "If he ever decides to explore the witches' world, he should have a mentor, and I can't let it happen that he's ignored and left alone (because it didn't go well for me)". And Wanda knows Agatha is a "nosy neighbour", so how she could possibly pass by some mysterious sigil. Also, I have to point out that the last time they spoke, Agatha was like: "You're gonna need me" to which Wanda replied that she'd know where to look for her.
I admit it's not a massive realisation, but I'd say it changes quite a bit.
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